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		<title>By: Alisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m closing the comments on this post due to the antagonistic nature that they are taking on.</description>
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		<title>By: Alisa</title>
		<link>http://www.projecthappilyeverafter.com/2009/06/her-husband-lied-about-strip-clubs-whats-next/comment-page-1/#comment-59289</link>
		<dc:creator>Alisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everyone--This is a controversial topic, one that can generate a lot of strong negative feelings in most of us. One of the things I&#039;ve tried hard to do with this site is write about topics that allow us all to have a frank but civil discussion about such topics--so that we may all learn from the many different opinions and perspectives. I think there is a lot to be learned here in the comments, but there are also some outright attacks, too. I&#039;m leaving the comments for now. But I will delete all future comments that attack a specific person for his or her personal story or opinion. It really is possible to state your point of view without intentionally hurting another human. We have lots of evidence and examples of that all over this site. So please take that into consideration. Before writing an angry comment that attacks someone else here, please think, &quot;This person is already hurting and so am I, otherwise neither one of us would be reading this website. I wouldn&#039;t want someone to intentionally hurt me more. Do I want to intentionally take my anger out on someone else?&quot; Thanks so much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone&#8211;This is a controversial topic, one that can generate a lot of strong negative feelings in most of us. One of the things I&#8217;ve tried hard to do with this site is write about topics that allow us all to have a frank but civil discussion about such topics&#8211;so that we may all learn from the many different opinions and perspectives. I think there is a lot to be learned here in the comments, but there are also some outright attacks, too. I&#8217;m leaving the comments for now. But I will delete all future comments that attack a specific person for his or her personal story or opinion. It really is possible to state your point of view without intentionally hurting another human. We have lots of evidence and examples of that all over this site. So please take that into consideration. Before writing an angry comment that attacks someone else here, please think, &#8220;This person is already hurting and so am I, otherwise neither one of us would be reading this website. I wouldn&#8217;t want someone to intentionally hurt me more. Do I want to intentionally take my anger out on someone else?&#8221; Thanks so much!</p>
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		<title>By: Becca West</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becca West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 04:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor Bud, wanted to have his cake and eat it too and then doesn&#039;t understand why his wife got sick of it.   

Or would you have been okay with your lovely wife going outside of your marriage to seek out romantic and sexual turn-ons with other men?  And, no, a male strip club is not comparable as women are not as visual.  I&#039;m talking about activity with other men that would sexually arouse her as you were sexually aroused by sex workers. 

How absurd and &quot;entitled&quot; to expect to have a &quot;nice&quot; woman sitting at home who would never in a million years do with other men what you go outside of your relationship and pay other women to do with you.

If you didn&#039;t want to have a woman &quot;control&quot; you, you should have stayed single!  Now you are and now your wife is free to find someone who understands the simple truth that when you love someone you treat them with the same respect and consideration you would want for yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Bud, wanted to have his cake and eat it too and then doesn&#8217;t understand why his wife got sick of it.   </p>
<p>Or would you have been okay with your lovely wife going outside of your marriage to seek out romantic and sexual turn-ons with other men?  And, no, a male strip club is not comparable as women are not as visual.  I&#8217;m talking about activity with other men that would sexually arouse her as you were sexually aroused by sex workers. </p>
<p>How absurd and &#8220;entitled&#8221; to expect to have a &#8220;nice&#8221; woman sitting at home who would never in a million years do with other men what you go outside of your relationship and pay other women to do with you.</p>
<p>If you didn&#8217;t want to have a woman &#8220;control&#8221; you, you should have stayed single!  Now you are and now your wife is free to find someone who understands the simple truth that when you love someone you treat them with the same respect and consideration you would want for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, it wasn&#039;t the TRUTH that bothered her, it was the CHEATING.</description>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Bud,

I feel for you and am sad that your marriage came to an end. I hope you move on and find happiness again. That being said, with your previous experience of her not being comfortable with it and you continuing to do it, you DID kind of know that your marriage could possibly end from this behavior and you were hoping not to get caught. You could tell by her body language and hurt eyes that every time you went you hurt her whether she told you she was going to try and be &quot;ok&quot; with it or not.  You KNEW. You were willing to roll the dice and take that chance. 
I was raped as a virgin at 16 and my first sex partner after that was my husband at 19 the same year my first child was born. He cheated on me with strippers and lied constantly. We were divorced at 21. At 22 I met my current husband who was previously very promiscuous. Knowing my past, I told him the requirement to be with me. I would NEVER accept any type of sexual behavior outside our relationship. He is very sexual and I should have known better. For the last 17 years he told me how the guys at work went to strip clubs, hired hookers out of town, etc. I thought his honesty meant that he would never do such a thing and that&#039;s what he told me. He talked about them like scum. I felt lucky.
Now that I&#039;ve turned up high-risk HPV positive (could turn to cancer), he has confessed to strip club visits and I found his online porn addiction. I don&#039;t wear my wedding ring anymore and I cry all of the time. He cries all of the time on his knees because he is so sorry now. I don&#039;t feel sorry for him. He is trying to be an amazing husband now and dotes on my like a princess. He&#039;s never treated me better and I want a divorce. I made my rules very clear over and over all of these years. He has wasted the best years of my life. He could have married someone else or been truthful and left. Our 7 year old daughter is his spitting image and she adores him. HE has robbed her of a stable home when he cheated on US. Not ME.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Bud,</p>
<p>I feel for you and am sad that your marriage came to an end. I hope you move on and find happiness again. That being said, with your previous experience of her not being comfortable with it and you continuing to do it, you DID kind of know that your marriage could possibly end from this behavior and you were hoping not to get caught. You could tell by her body language and hurt eyes that every time you went you hurt her whether she told you she was going to try and be &#8220;ok&#8221; with it or not.  You KNEW. You were willing to roll the dice and take that chance.<br />
I was raped as a virgin at 16 and my first sex partner after that was my husband at 19 the same year my first child was born. He cheated on me with strippers and lied constantly. We were divorced at 21. At 22 I met my current husband who was previously very promiscuous. Knowing my past, I told him the requirement to be with me. I would NEVER accept any type of sexual behavior outside our relationship. He is very sexual and I should have known better. For the last 17 years he told me how the guys at work went to strip clubs, hired hookers out of town, etc. I thought his honesty meant that he would never do such a thing and that&#8217;s what he told me. He talked about them like scum. I felt lucky.<br />
Now that I&#8217;ve turned up high-risk HPV positive (could turn to cancer), he has confessed to strip club visits and I found his online porn addiction. I don&#8217;t wear my wedding ring anymore and I cry all of the time. He cries all of the time on his knees because he is so sorry now. I don&#8217;t feel sorry for him. He is trying to be an amazing husband now and dotes on my like a princess. He&#8217;s never treated me better and I want a divorce. I made my rules very clear over and over all of these years. He has wasted the best years of my life. He could have married someone else or been truthful and left. Our 7 year old daughter is his spitting image and she adores him. HE has robbed her of a stable home when he cheated on US. Not ME.</p>
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		<title>By: Bud Cooper</title>
		<link>http://www.projecthappilyeverafter.com/2009/06/her-husband-lied-about-strip-clubs-whats-next/comment-page-1/#comment-54872</link>
		<dc:creator>Bud Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alisa&#039;s comments here are the most accurate, understanding, sensitive and sensible that I have ever encountered coming from a woman&#039;s perspective.  If only more women would read these words and embrace them, a lot of unnecessary suffering, grief, lying, and divorces would be spared.  Specifically for me, I didn&#039;t tell my partner that I went to strip clubs about twice a month (but never spending more than $40 and never endangering our finances) at certain stressful periods in my life (there were many years I didn&#039;t go at all, and these were the non-stressful years) because I knew inside she would not want me to. Eight years later I told her the truth, and she set down these rules: no lap dances, and you have to tell me every time you go. The first time I went after she told me this (more than three years later), I followed those rules--but, although she tried to act like she was OK with it, it obviously weirded her out.  The next time I went she came with me. She did comment that she could understand why men would come because the women were indeed beautiful. But when a guy next to us gave her a dollar and said &quot;you are the best looking woman in here&quot; she held the dollar up to my face with an angry look that said &quot;see you asshole, you don&#039;t need to come to these places.&quot; She didn&#039;t understand that a man can be totally attracted to his woman and still enjoy finding other women attractive with absolutely NO desire to engage in any sexual activity.  Two years after this event (during which I didn&#039;t go to any) I once again went without telling her. The following year I decided to be honest about my most recent visit. Instead of being glad for telling the truth, or at least being OK with it, I was lambasted.  And just as Alisa said, my response was to not tell her in the future because the truth bothered her. Now let me be clear to the women out there ready to criticize me, she NEVER told me that if I kept going without telling her that she would divorce me. Had she done this, that would have been the end of my going. To think that I would choose clubs over my very dear partner would be absurd. Yet, she divorced me a year later, using my going to clubs and more importantly my not being truthful about it, as one of the major reasons for leaving.  Leaving what had been a mostly wonderful 15 year marriage over this matter without giving me the ultimatum was tragic for me and I think rash for her.

So Alisa, thank you for presenting a reasonable and balanced view. Women like &quot;A True Lady&quot; are judgmental, feminist extremists who want everything their way and want to totally control men. I&#039;m all for women&#039;s rights, equal pay, respect (and if you would go to a good quality club you would see for yourself that the dancers are treated with a LOT of respect), but the only true cheating involves serious sexual activities.  Women say they want honesty, but when they get it, they often complain the loudest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alisa&#8217;s comments here are the most accurate, understanding, sensitive and sensible that I have ever encountered coming from a woman&#8217;s perspective.  If only more women would read these words and embrace them, a lot of unnecessary suffering, grief, lying, and divorces would be spared.  Specifically for me, I didn&#8217;t tell my partner that I went to strip clubs about twice a month (but never spending more than $40 and never endangering our finances) at certain stressful periods in my life (there were many years I didn&#8217;t go at all, and these were the non-stressful years) because I knew inside she would not want me to. Eight years later I told her the truth, and she set down these rules: no lap dances, and you have to tell me every time you go. The first time I went after she told me this (more than three years later), I followed those rules&#8211;but, although she tried to act like she was OK with it, it obviously weirded her out.  The next time I went she came with me. She did comment that she could understand why men would come because the women were indeed beautiful. But when a guy next to us gave her a dollar and said &#8220;you are the best looking woman in here&#8221; she held the dollar up to my face with an angry look that said &#8220;see you asshole, you don&#8217;t need to come to these places.&#8221; She didn&#8217;t understand that a man can be totally attracted to his woman and still enjoy finding other women attractive with absolutely NO desire to engage in any sexual activity.  Two years after this event (during which I didn&#8217;t go to any) I once again went without telling her. The following year I decided to be honest about my most recent visit. Instead of being glad for telling the truth, or at least being OK with it, I was lambasted.  And just as Alisa said, my response was to not tell her in the future because the truth bothered her. Now let me be clear to the women out there ready to criticize me, she NEVER told me that if I kept going without telling her that she would divorce me. Had she done this, that would have been the end of my going. To think that I would choose clubs over my very dear partner would be absurd. Yet, she divorced me a year later, using my going to clubs and more importantly my not being truthful about it, as one of the major reasons for leaving.  Leaving what had been a mostly wonderful 15 year marriage over this matter without giving me the ultimatum was tragic for me and I think rash for her.</p>
<p>So Alisa, thank you for presenting a reasonable and balanced view. Women like &#8220;A True Lady&#8221; are judgmental, feminist extremists who want everything their way and want to totally control men. I&#8217;m all for women&#8217;s rights, equal pay, respect (and if you would go to a good quality club you would see for yourself that the dancers are treated with a LOT of respect), but the only true cheating involves serious sexual activities.  Women say they want honesty, but when they get it, they often complain the loudest.</p>
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		<title>By: A True Lady</title>
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		<dc:creator>A True Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but I have to respond to &quot;Lady&quot; - if you go to strip clubs with your husband, you are far from a lady.  If you are that type of woman, fine, but do not fool yourself into thinking that you meet any of the expectations of a true lady.  My husband would be totally turned off of me if I went to strip clubs or if I was into any type of porn - He wants to spend his life with (as he says) a woman with honor, morals, values. We have an extremely exciting and flirtacious relationship and we don&#039;t need outsiders, paid or otherwise to stimulate our love life. Some women aren&#039;t as lucky and figure if they can&#039;t beat it then join in - I find that  most woman I know like this are extremely insecure about themselves, usually physically. This is their way of trying to act as if they are happily married and that they are ok with it all. If you are honest with yourself you will see the true reasons why you choose to encourage your husband to exploit women and to do it yourself. Stripping is the first level of prostitution - it should never be &quot;ok&quot; with any woman. Women have fought hard to get where we are today in society, but we will never be 100% equal as long as we allow our men to victimize women sexually, be it porn, strip clubs or what have you. I&#039;m sorry &quot;Miss Unladylike&quot; but you should try to figure out what your insecurities are that allow you to think this behavior is acceptable.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but I have to respond to &#8220;Lady&#8221; &#8211; if you go to strip clubs with your husband, you are far from a lady.  If you are that type of woman, fine, but do not fool yourself into thinking that you meet any of the expectations of a true lady.  My husband would be totally turned off of me if I went to strip clubs or if I was into any type of porn &#8211; He wants to spend his life with (as he says) a woman with honor, morals, values. We have an extremely exciting and flirtacious relationship and we don&#8217;t need outsiders, paid or otherwise to stimulate our love life. Some women aren&#8217;t as lucky and figure if they can&#8217;t beat it then join in &#8211; I find that  most woman I know like this are extremely insecure about themselves, usually physically. This is their way of trying to act as if they are happily married and that they are ok with it all. If you are honest with yourself you will see the true reasons why you choose to encourage your husband to exploit women and to do it yourself. Stripping is the first level of prostitution &#8211; it should never be &#8220;ok&#8221; with any woman. Women have fought hard to get where we are today in society, but we will never be 100% equal as long as we allow our men to victimize women sexually, be it porn, strip clubs or what have you. I&#8217;m sorry &#8220;Miss Unladylike&#8221; but you should try to figure out what your insecurities are that allow you to think this behavior is acceptable&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it&#039;s me again with another comment (as you can tell I&#039;ve got a ton of them!)

Regarding strip clubs - why can&#039;t we just be truthful and cut all the bull---- 
Strip clubs are sleazy, they&#039;re located on the sleazy side of town (I bet you don&#039;t have one next to your church or kids school), sleazy folks work there, and sleazy things happen in them (in addition to sex acts, drugs, violence, etc.).

Obviously we don&#039;t want our spouses hanging out in sleazy places.

Think about this too - why don&#039;t we ever see letters from husbands concerned about their wives going away with girlfriends and doing sleazy things??
Well, I would say because most of the women I know aren&#039;t interested in being sleazy.  It wouldn&#039;t even enter our minds to do the stuff some men would do on a guy&#039;s weekend.  (FYI:Our husbands know this about us by the way) Our idea of wild is drinking a bottle of wine while wolfing down a plate of brownies and ordering too much Silpada jewelry.  

Let&#039;s be honest - we want spouses who are respectable, upstanding citizens - and hanging out in strip clubs does not fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s me again with another comment (as you can tell I&#8217;ve got a ton of them!)</p>
<p>Regarding strip clubs &#8211; why can&#8217;t we just be truthful and cut all the bull&#8212;-<br />
Strip clubs are sleazy, they&#8217;re located on the sleazy side of town (I bet you don&#8217;t have one next to your church or kids school), sleazy folks work there, and sleazy things happen in them (in addition to sex acts, drugs, violence, etc.).</p>
<p>Obviously we don&#8217;t want our spouses hanging out in sleazy places.</p>
<p>Think about this too &#8211; why don&#8217;t we ever see letters from husbands concerned about their wives going away with girlfriends and doing sleazy things??<br />
Well, I would say because most of the women I know aren&#8217;t interested in being sleazy.  It wouldn&#8217;t even enter our minds to do the stuff some men would do on a guy&#8217;s weekend.  (FYI:Our husbands know this about us by the way) Our idea of wild is drinking a bottle of wine while wolfing down a plate of brownies and ordering too much Silpada jewelry.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be honest &#8211; we want spouses who are respectable, upstanding citizens &#8211; and hanging out in strip clubs does not fit.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This all comes down to honesty and trust within a marriage.  You trusted that your husband was being truthful when you initially asked him about his trip to Myrtle Beach.  He has since been on this annual trip several times - continuing to lie about the events of the trip.  Why does he lie?  Because he knows that the truth will damage his marriage - that he is not behaving in an honorable way toward his wife.  Decieved also notes that he continues to lie and is not telling her everything.  What does this mean?  What could he be holding back?  If he just &quot;hung out&quot; at a strip club why can&#039;t he just be truthful about it?  
Perhaps he had one too many private lap dances - would you call this cheating on your wife?  Well I guess it depends on your definition of monogamy and honor.  In any other venue I think it would be considered cheating.  Would it be ok if you walked into your living room and found your naked next-door neighbor giving your hubby a lap-dance?  For most married folk I would think not.

I understand the advice given to Decieved. However, I think you&#039;re being too harsh on her.  You tell her to &quot;create a very safe environment for him in order to tell the truth&quot;.  Now think about this - he just created for HER a very unsafe environment - a world where she doesn&#039;t know if he can be trusted.  Also - you say to &quot;Set firm expectations&quot;  but then in the next sentence you blame her by saying hey if you could just be cool with strip clubs then he would tell you all about it!!  What?!?  So what are these firm expectations??  I say what goes for her goes for him - it sounds as though this couple does NOT go to strip clubs together - that this activity is NOT part of their marriage.  So if he does not want her to engage in this behavior why is he allowed to do it??  You could compare this to many things -for instance drugs - if he doesn&#039;t want a wife who gets high weekly is it OK for him to do it??  No, it&#039;s called being a hypocrite.

Comparing this deception to lying about your fantasies and/or whether or not you think someone is hot IS NOT comparable.  This situation in Myrtle Beach involves REAL actual live NAKED people.  It sounds like a group of &quot;boys&quot; who go down there annually to get their WILD side on - I&#039;m sure most of them are married, the wives are home taking care of the kids, and they get to play &quot;Let&#039;s get wild and horny - our wives well never know - ha -ha&quot;.  It&#039;s a lie that I&#039;m sure they ALL keep from their wives because once again they KNOW it&#039;s not honorable and would damage their marriages.

Also - it kills me that people compare a long-time lie like this with a &quot;white lie&quot; she might tell her husband.  So if Deceived lied about buying a new dress at Macy&#039;s that would compare to her husband getting 5 private lap-dances on his four-day trip to Mrytle Beach???  Don&#039;t think so.  One just sounds so much sleazier than the other.

On another note - Why do women think they have to put up with this behavior?  Why is it OK for men to have wild bachelor parties with naked women?  It&#039;s frustrating that many women do not see or refuse to see the truth behind these parties. They are disrespectful to the fiance.  He has just declared his love to you, his desire to have a family with you , to grow old together, etc.  But first he has to go out and get some T&amp;A all over his face!  Wow - isn&#039;t that cool??  How sweet of him.  (Yes - I hear those dissenters - &quot;oh, but boys will be boys&quot;  - NOTE the operative word is BOYS)

Remember these are women that your husband/boyfriend would never marry or have kids with - they&#039;re just women to use for their own horny adventures.  These are women who are looked down upon by both you AND your husband/fiance.  Do you see the hypocrisy??  

Now back to Decieved - I would encourage both of them to go to couples therapy.  By doing so they can explore their own marital boundaries, including how to show respect for one another and Decieved can regain her trust in him. He has much work to do in order to repair their marriage.  Sending good wishes to Decieved!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This all comes down to honesty and trust within a marriage.  You trusted that your husband was being truthful when you initially asked him about his trip to Myrtle Beach.  He has since been on this annual trip several times &#8211; continuing to lie about the events of the trip.  Why does he lie?  Because he knows that the truth will damage his marriage &#8211; that he is not behaving in an honorable way toward his wife.  Decieved also notes that he continues to lie and is not telling her everything.  What does this mean?  What could he be holding back?  If he just &#8220;hung out&#8221; at a strip club why can&#8217;t he just be truthful about it?<br />
Perhaps he had one too many private lap dances &#8211; would you call this cheating on your wife?  Well I guess it depends on your definition of monogamy and honor.  In any other venue I think it would be considered cheating.  Would it be ok if you walked into your living room and found your naked next-door neighbor giving your hubby a lap-dance?  For most married folk I would think not.</p>
<p>I understand the advice given to Decieved. However, I think you&#8217;re being too harsh on her.  You tell her to &#8220;create a very safe environment for him in order to tell the truth&#8221;.  Now think about this &#8211; he just created for HER a very unsafe environment &#8211; a world where she doesn&#8217;t know if he can be trusted.  Also &#8211; you say to &#8220;Set firm expectations&#8221;  but then in the next sentence you blame her by saying hey if you could just be cool with strip clubs then he would tell you all about it!!  What?!?  So what are these firm expectations??  I say what goes for her goes for him &#8211; it sounds as though this couple does NOT go to strip clubs together &#8211; that this activity is NOT part of their marriage.  So if he does not want her to engage in this behavior why is he allowed to do it??  You could compare this to many things -for instance drugs &#8211; if he doesn&#8217;t want a wife who gets high weekly is it OK for him to do it??  No, it&#8217;s called being a hypocrite.</p>
<p>Comparing this deception to lying about your fantasies and/or whether or not you think someone is hot IS NOT comparable.  This situation in Myrtle Beach involves REAL actual live NAKED people.  It sounds like a group of &#8220;boys&#8221; who go down there annually to get their WILD side on &#8211; I&#8217;m sure most of them are married, the wives are home taking care of the kids, and they get to play &#8220;Let&#8217;s get wild and horny &#8211; our wives well never know &#8211; ha -ha&#8221;.  It&#8217;s a lie that I&#8217;m sure they ALL keep from their wives because once again they KNOW it&#8217;s not honorable and would damage their marriages.</p>
<p>Also &#8211; it kills me that people compare a long-time lie like this with a &#8220;white lie&#8221; she might tell her husband.  So if Deceived lied about buying a new dress at Macy&#8217;s that would compare to her husband getting 5 private lap-dances on his four-day trip to Mrytle Beach???  Don&#8217;t think so.  One just sounds so much sleazier than the other.</p>
<p>On another note &#8211; Why do women think they have to put up with this behavior?  Why is it OK for men to have wild bachelor parties with naked women?  It&#8217;s frustrating that many women do not see or refuse to see the truth behind these parties. They are disrespectful to the fiance.  He has just declared his love to you, his desire to have a family with you , to grow old together, etc.  But first he has to go out and get some T&amp;A all over his face!  Wow &#8211; isn&#8217;t that cool??  How sweet of him.  (Yes &#8211; I hear those dissenters &#8211; &#8220;oh, but boys will be boys&#8221;  &#8211; NOTE the operative word is BOYS)</p>
<p>Remember these are women that your husband/boyfriend would never marry or have kids with &#8211; they&#8217;re just women to use for their own horny adventures.  These are women who are looked down upon by both you AND your husband/fiance.  Do you see the hypocrisy??  </p>
<p>Now back to Decieved &#8211; I would encourage both of them to go to couples therapy.  By doing so they can explore their own marital boundaries, including how to show respect for one another and Decieved can regain her trust in him. He has much work to do in order to repair their marriage.  Sending good wishes to Decieved!</p>
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		<title>By: Queen Lindsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Queen Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think going to the strip club every now and again is okay. It&#039;s when you start spending the &#039;grocery&#039; money on strippers that seems to cause problems. We all tell white lies, I&#039;m wondering what little white lie she has told her hubby. Hey, we&#039;re human...we all have flaws. Maybe next time he wants to go to the strip club..he should invite her. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think going to the strip club every now and again is okay. It&#8217;s when you start spending the &#8216;grocery&#8217; money on strippers that seems to cause problems. We all tell white lies, I&#8217;m wondering what little white lie she has told her hubby. Hey, we&#8217;re human&#8230;we all have flaws. Maybe next time he wants to go to the strip club..he should invite her. <img src='http://www.projecthappilyeverafter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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